Into the Fray

We are very excited about all the great commenting that goes on The BreakPoint blog. It is growing and more people are getting engaged. Only one hitch -- it is pretty much "among Christians."

I'd like to invite you (even those have not commented here yet) to go out to the front lines with us -- to the Colson Center YouTube channel. Click below to find out why.

That is the channel where Chuck's weekly "Two-Minute Warning" video is posted weekly. We always embed the YouTube feed on the Colson Center site, where most of "our" audience views it -- and never sees the comments it engenders there from people who come to it many other ways. Any time Chuck talks about anything related to politics, we get a lot of really bad ones. Often, over half of those do not get put up, because they break our rules about profanity or slander. But we do put up some pretty mean ones even then, as they do not break the rules.

Many of these people just disagree strongly with what Chuck is saying. But others hate everything about Christianity and what we are doing.

The latest video, posted yesterday, already has a bunch of comments. There are a few defenders, but many detractors.

I'd like to invite you to go and engage in the conversation there. You may not even agree with Chuck or the point being made. That is OK. Share your thoughts honestly, as you do here. But my hope is that we can get a greater degree of civility going over there, and some Christian witness in a winsome spirit to people who are shouting and not hearing much back in the conversation.

Here's the latest video. Go check it out, then engage. Just so you know, here's some of what you're going to see:

"Good. Revolt so you can be slaughtered like the stupid animals you are. "

"An infamous criminal calls for violence against equality.
Nothing new here, folks just the same old Rethuglican Xtianists in action."

"Hello, Chuck: You are not being persecuted. You're simply not getting your way,... As for civil disobedience, that's pretty laughable, since you and yours have been on the wrong side of virtually every civil disobedience in American history."

 

(Feb 15th - the discussion continues... with more proponents than before and still many opponents. Here is a new, direct link to the comments section of the video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=WWP3sohcY-g)


Comments:

Studies
@Jason. Studies I have seen by Poynter and others - on the effect of commenting on various media online - is that it has more effect on the readers (who do not themselves comment) than on the commenters themselves. Few other, 'opposing' commenters (or Trolls) get converted. But Many people who simply read and watch are affected. Think of Jesus, when He confronted the Pharisees, or the Sadducees, or others. Few of them converted then. Even Nicodemus snuck back to Him at night, when no one could see. But the effect on the crowd of observers was tremendous. That is how we Christians have to engage. And we must be fearless about it.
My experience is that it usually causes a pointless flame that leaves everyone thinking the same thing they did before.
Troll Baiting
@Jason. We are trying to turn this from a Troll festival into a genuine discussion. It seems to be moving in that direction. My experience, both online and in real gatherings (going all the way back to witnessing at SDS rallies on campus in the late 60's - yes - that dates me) - is that if you stand your ground and speak the truth steadily and with kindness, you have a MUCH bigger effect on the crowd than you would ever imagine.
The Discussion rages on
It is interesting the tack this discussion has taken. There are many more supporters now, but also still many opponents. It is, of course, much more bare-knuckled than most we have on The BreakPoint Blog. (Note - I just posted a new direct link to the comment section at the end of the original post above).
Trollbaiting just wastes time and leaves you feeling lousy, Lee. I've done it to many times to want to do it again.
Alan, Gregory (the Gre...y?) was thread weaving:
http://thepoint.breakpoint.org/tp-home/blog-archives/blog-archives/entry/4/18673

It's from an existentialist poem written by the main character's father in the film The Grey. The first two stanza of "The Charge of the Light Brigade" by Alfred, Lord Tennyson:

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Responses
Hey! The discussion has gotten a lot better over on YouTube.

@LeeQuod - Hip-Hip- Hooray! you are one of the best! The cavalry has arrived, or air cover, or whatever! Yes, many are spoiling for a fight, and,to quote Dr. Dobson's book, The Strong-Willed Child: "...we dare not disappoint them!"

@Gregorius - I resisted the temptation to look up the quote - guessing - Tennyson? Charge of the Light Brigade??
I am sure it is not the "Onward Sufragettes" song from Mme. Banks in Mary Poppins. "Onward and onward, into the fray..." That one is still on my mind because we showed the dear old film to Samuel, finally. He loved it.
Auto-da-fray?
Alan, it appears to me that most of the comments are from people spoiling for a fight, rather than (as at this blog) discussing. But since you asked, I figured out how to sign up for YouTube, and I posted some comments as well as rating some. We'll see how it goes.
Not again...
Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight I'll ever know.
Live and die today,
Live and die today.

;)
More good comments
More good comments ....great!!!
A couple of comments
We have gotten a couple of comments on the positive side since this went up. That is good, and thanks! We need more and we also need ratings on comments. The highest-rated comments there are pretty negative.




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